Interviews with Shaded Red and Jars of Clay

Tuesday night I came across a couple sweet cassette tapes while sorting through and trying to archive some of my old audio tapes.

The first one is audio from my days with Lighthouse 21 (KVTT 91.7 and KTPW 89.7) and the second was an air check tape from my KEOM 88.5 days).

What’s so special about The Lighthouse 21 tape is that it has two of my first “real” interviews — the first with John Roberts of Shaded Red and the second with Dan, Charlie and Matt of Jars of Clay.

The interviews took place Sept. 26, 1999 (aka almost 11 years ago – wow!), at an outdoor concert both bands were performing at (along with Plumb) here in the Megaplex.

Now I know there are some who could care less about these tapes — but for me, it was definitely a highlight of my time with Lighthouse 21. Sure, it wasn’t Sting or U2 — but these were fairly big names in the CCM market at the time.

And this first interview with John Roberts led to a follow-up interview with both John and Jamie of Shaded Red later on and led to me bringing them to perform at UMHB while I was in charge of the UMHB Concert Company.

So without further ado… here are my interviews…

John Roberts:
[audio:http://www.casadeblundell.com/media/johnroberts-shadedred.mp3]

(download the shaded red audio)

Jars of Clay:
[audio:http://www.casadeblundell.com/media/jarsofclay.mp3]

(download the jars of clay audio)

Sunday night open line

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Just a brief heads up…

I’ll be back on Power FM Sunday night for Open Lines on Powertalk with Rick Walker. The show runs from 9 to 9:30ish PM CST.

It’s always a great time — and with Open Lines, you just never know what you’re gonna get.

In the past, we’ve talked about everything from cow tippin’, teen sex, masturbation, why God allows suffering and lots more.

In the DFW area, you can listen in on 89.7 FM KVRK or anywhere in the world, listen online at 897powerfm.com.

Powertalk podcast

My buddy Rick Walker asked me to come join him last night at Power FM for his show Powertalk. It was open line so the topics ran from persecution, blessings and curse to end times and cow tipping.

At one point I think Rick got a little carried away and called me “the theological voice of our generation.” Luckily we passed that title off to a caller before too long.

I had also forgotten how funny it is to hear yourself on the radio or other recordings. I always think I have a much higher voice until I hear a recording of my voice or hear myself talking with headphones on. Crazy stuff.

Anyways, all of that to say the podcast of the show is up.

You can listen here. Be sure and listen to a cameo phone call from my best friend Matt.

Chuck Swindoll dropped from Radio Network


Pastor Chuck Swindoll and his radio program, Insight for Living has been dropped from the VCY Radio Network (never heard of them) for crude language.

According to the press release from VCY Radio Network, Swindoll has used a number of bad words since 2000 (yes, apparently they’ve been keeping a tally for 7 years now): buns, heck, crap and balls. They also said he mentioned and encouraged the viewing of — get ready for it….. “The Lion King.” (gasps, screams, a woman just passed out in the back!)

From the VCY press release:

The decision to bring termination to the IFL program arrived on March 5, 2007. VCY and listeners were highly offended by Chuck Swindoll’s use of crude and uncalled for language. His message was entitled, “Male Leadership 101″ which was a presentation given to men at his church. Although a disclaimer was given at the beginning of the program, Swindoll had a sustained laugh as he stated had he known this would be on radio at the time of speaking he probably would have changed things around because he tends to be “a little loose and a little free.” But he says he found “people appreciate that”. The specific area of offense came when Chuck stated:

“The sons of Issachar understood their times, they were men who had discernment and the sons of Issachar were men who had direction. They could make decisions. They saw through all the fluff of that culture. They stood strong when others were fading in the shadows. Patton would say they had guts. You’d say at work, they had balls. Or maybe that’s a Greek rendering of another verse.” (Laughter)…

Knowing this was Part 1 of a message, VCY pre-listened to the March 6, 2007 broadcast. In this message Chuck Swindoll addressed accountability, sensitivity, purity and integrity. These virtues were compromised when he spoke the following:

“The battle still goes on. It will never end. In fact I had my physical the other day and Cooper who has a finger that long (pause and lots of laughter), that long (continued laughter). And while he was up in there said, ‘Now that’s your prostate.’ I said (Swindoll yells) — ‘I know that’. Was this anatomy class? (Laughter). He’s a very sick man. (Laughter). Got through prostate, checked out great. I bragged about that to Cynthia about three hours. ‘I’ve got a great prostate.’ She said, ‘get a life, honey.'” (Laughter)

VCY finds it unacceptable to broadcast Chuck Swindoll’s re-counting of the length of the finger of his doctor and describing it in his body while checking his prostate. This is both crude and offensive.

It is VCY’s position that this language is gutter talk, is crude, and vulgar. VCY stated to IFL that such language is uncalled for, is unbecoming a pastor, and is inappropriate for our listeners.

Read the full press release.

And of course you know out in the blogosphere there are great responses to the announcement from VCY. From Verum Serum:

It is such a relief to know that Ingrid and the rest of the gang over at Slice (along with the others in the watchdoggie litter) are there defending the faith from the dark machinations of the Evil One who has perverted one of the longest running Christian teaching programs in America. To be sure that we get the salient points and to be sure that we are all on the right judgmental spiritual page, here’s what we have learned:

1) Commonly used social colloquialisms and slang are to be avoided at all costs, and to fail to do so draws into question the amount of Godliness within one’s soul.
2) Discussing the physical realities of life (such as medical examinations) is off limits, especially if it is done in a light and humorous manner.
3) Never, never, EVER expose yourself or your children to any sort of stories or fairytale involving magic, magical lands, magical/talking animals, etc. Magic is always evil, no matter what, so anything that tries to portray it in any other light is anathema and must be shunned and/or stoned and/or burned at the stake of heresy.
4) Words like “heck,” “darn,” “shoot,” “crap,” “dang it,” “darn it,” “dang nabbit,” and the like are all suger-coated cuss words to be avoided at all costs.
5) A literal belief in six 24 hour days of creation is ESSENTIAL for a proper understanding of the Christian faith and thus for salvation. Any other belief/interpretation is heresy and should be treated as such.
6) The consumption of any food or drink that the world seems to approve of is to be avoided. In the case of alcohol, anyone who drinks it has allied themselves with the world and the prince of this world (the Devil). The consumption of alcohol is grounds for immediate condemnation to the bowels of hell. In fact, doing anything for fun and/or pleasure that is also done by the world must be avoided. Besides drinking alcohol, the list would include: eating chocolate (or any sort of food with a pleasant flavor), listening to music (even hymns), dressing in anything but sack cloth (longs skirts for women and suites and ties for men stimulate feelings of pleasure at one’s appearance, which is sinful, besides the fact that such articles of clothing have been conceived by and created by nonbelievers in the world), reading (even the Bible, since reading anything but Leviticus can lend itself to an enjoyable passing of time while one reads about the movement of God in the history of the world), watching movies (even G rated movies, since again they have been developed by nonbelievers and are thus tainted by the impurity of their thoughts and actions), etc.
7) Any reference to any male or female anatomy located below the shoulders and above the knees is to be avoided, lest it stimulate carnal and/or otherwise inappropriate thoughts. Besides the obvious ones, the following words should also be avoided: chest, bosom, breast, crotch, groin, thigh, derriere, bottom, rump, butt, buns, bum, and arse.

Be sure and read the full version.

About VCY Network:

The VCY America radio network is a satellite distributed full-service program schedule consisting of Bible teaching programs, live call-in programs on issues of concern to the Christian community, news and commentary, programs reaching children with the Gospel, and conservative, uplifting Christian music. Programs are selected for their ministry value and their biblical content, rather than financial considerations. There are currently twelve VCY-owned stations across the midwest on this network, plus others that take our programming for a number of hours each day, some of them full-time.

Christian music

A friend forward this to me…

It was sent to KLTY FM in Dallas after an exchange between two DJ’s this morning on the radio.

KLTY – this morning, around 8am, the pair of DJ’s had a very disturbing exchange. After playing the remake of “Pride (in the name of love)” by Delirious?, originally written by U2, one DJ asked, “Was that U2?” to which the other responded, “No, that was Delirious?. We only play the good stuff, we don’t play no trash.” This particular DJ then repeated similar statements.
Now, first of all, my memory is not perfect so I do not consider these direct quotes – but I do consider them the direct “gist” of the statements. Second, the DJ’s names’ are not important, but YOURS is, and so is our Lord’s. Regardless of who said this, it is deeply concerning for me as both a Christian and one who appreciates the tremendous impact that U2 has made for the Kingdom of God. Allowing this slander (literally) on the air poses KLTY as self-righteous, and Christians as war-mongers of culture. This adulterates the image of our Lord. Third, if by chance they were “just joking,” then I would encourage such antics off the air, not on the air.
To make a statement like this, on the air, betrays a tragic misunderstanding of U2, specifically, and good music, in general. U2 have made tremendous contributions to the church, and it serves us well to encourage them, and to welcome them to Dallas when they play on Oct 29. They are our brothers, not the enemy.
This is grievous, and sadly irresponsible.
Please, please…let us watch our words carefully.

I still find it interesting when people decide what’s Christian music and what’s not by the person singing it.
U2 received no recognition after their All That You Can’t Leave Behind Album — until a “Christian” band decided to record it (on the same album that Delirious?’s Pride version was recorded on). Once they recorded it, U2 was nominated at the Dove awards for song writer of the year.
And Los Lonely Boys received no recognition for their song Heaven until Salvador recorded a version of it, and now its on Christian stations everywhere.
It’s all so goofy.