The Wild Goose Chase

Received a preview copy of Mark Batterson’s latest book, “Wild Goose Chase” on Saturday. Loving it.

I’ll post an extended review once I finish the book (which should be before the book’s release date on Aug 19th).

But I thought I’d post some initial thoughts/quotes that really stood out to me – thus far.

The idea/title of the book comes from the name the Celtic Christians had for the Holy Spirit – An Geadh-Glas or “the Wild Goose.” It may seem strange calling the Holy Spirit the Wild Goose – especially when you consider what we typically mean when we say, “a wild goose chase.” But if you really think about following the Holy Spirit – that’s what it’s really like. You have no idea where you’re heading. It may seem pointless when you follow The Wild Goose. “But rest assured, God is working His plan.”

“I wonder if churches do to people what zoos do to animals.” We’re caged by so many things in our modern versions of “faith.” Batterson spends the rest of the book looking at six different cages we find ourselves in and comparing these cages to different people/stories we read about in Scripture. As I read about these cages I can see bits and pieces of me living in each of them. Some are stronger cages than others – but each of them keep me from the adventure The Wild Goose is calling me to follow Him on. “You cannot simultaneously live by faith and be bored.”

“We start dying when we have nothing worth living for. And we don’t really start living until we find something worth dying for.”

“When God puts a passion in your heart, whether it be relieving starvation in Africa or educating children in the inner city or making movies with redemptive messages, that God-ordained passion becomes your responsibility. And you have a choice to make. Are you going to be irresponsibly responsible or responsibly irresponsible?”

“Supernatural sadness and righteous indignation often reveal our God-ordained passions… if something causes you to weep and mourn and fast and pray for days on end, it is a good indication that God wants you to take personal responsibility and do something about it. Anything less or anything else is irresponsible responsibility… If you want to discover your God-ordained passions, then you need to identify what makes you sad, mad, or glad… God-ordained passions often break our hearts. And they can seem like an overwhelming burden to bear. But pushing our passions is the key to living a fruitful and fulfilling life.”

“One of the great mistakes we make is asking God to do for us what God wants us to do for Him. We confuse portfolios. For example, we try to convict people around us of sin. But that is the Holy Spirit’s responsibility, not ours. And when we play God, we not only do a poor job at it, but it is always counterproductive.”

“When Christianity turns into a noun, it becomes a turnoff. Christianity is always intended to be a verb. And more specifically an action verb.”

Batterson talks a lot about the cage of routine in chp 3. Excellent stuff.

“When God wants us to experience a change in perspective, He often does it via a change in scenery… where you are geographically affects where you are spiritually…

change of pace + change of pace = change of perspective

“We do things without thinking about them. And if we aren’t careful, we pray without thinking, take Communion without thinking, and worship without thinking… ‘These people say they are mine,’ God complained. ‘They honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. And their worship of me is nothing but man-made rules learned by rote.’ … We need new words, new postures, new thoughts and new feelings.”

related ::
Mark Batterson’s blog
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Quote for the day

“Religiously, the majority of America’s young are postmodern, which means they do faith like jazz: informal, eclectic, and often without theme. They have largely rejected organized religion in favor of a religious pastiche that works for them. They think nothing of hammering together a personal faith from widely differing religious traditions, and many acquire their theology the same way they catch colds: through casual contact with strangers. Thus, when Obama speaks of questioning certain tenets of his Christian faith or the importance of doubt in religion or his respect for non-Christian religions, the majority of the young instantly relate and welcome his nontraditional faith as a basis for his—and their—left-leaning politics.”
– Stephen Mansfield
The Faith of Barack Obama

I hear there’s a FREE preview you can download from a particular podcast’s site. Might be worth checking out.

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Top emergent books

Tall Skinny Kiwi shared his top 5 emergent books for American readers back in June on his blog (just saw the post :-().

Here’s his top 5 (plus a few others) ::
1. Emerging Churches: Creating Christian Community in Postmodern Cultures, by Ryan Bolger and Eddie Gibbs.
2. The New Conspirators, Creating the Future One Mustard Seed at a Time, by Tom Sine.
3. The Emerging Church, by Dan Kimball.
4. The Church on the Other Side, by Brian McLaren.

Runners-up for 5th:
The New Christians: Dispatches from the Emergent Frontier, by Tony Jones.

Revolution, by George Barna.
The Irresistible Revolution, by Shane Claibourne.
The Great Emergence, by Phyllis Tickle.
The Tangible Kingdom: Creating Incarnational Community.
Also: Rising From the Ashes: Rethinking Church, by Becky Garrison.

Worth a mention: It might be almost 40 years old but “The Emerging Church” by Bruce Larson and Ralph Osborne (1970).

To be honest, as someone who was called an “emergent sympathizer” today I haven’t read any of these books — yet. I actually ordered two of them earlier today and hope to read them soon – that is if a couple others I’m expecting don’t reach my mail box first.

The books I’ve read and recommend as part of the “emergent movement” and or just faith in general are (in no particular order):

Everything Must Change by Brian McLaren. Probably one of the first “real emergent” books I read and one that had a great impact on my thinking and understanding.
Jesus for President by Shane Claiborne. Another great book that talks more about the history of kings, empires and the role of God-followers along the way.
A Christianity Worth Believing by Doug Pagitt. This book has left me asking a lot of questions. It’s not one I’ve recommended to a lot of people just for that reason but I thoroughly enjoyed the read.
A Peculiar People by Rodney Clapp. I don’t know that Rodney Clapp considers himself emergent by any means but his ideas really came to life after reading many of these other books before hand.

btw – if Mr. Tall Skinny Kiwi happens upon this blog post – we’d love to have you join us for an episode of the something beautiful podcast. tell us when and we’ll take care of the rest. 🙂

related ::
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Finding where God is at

“For too long we have gone out into the world to tell people what we think they ought to know rather than seeking to discover what they are interested in and where they are looking for answers. This is reminiscent of Paul’s encounter in Athens, a city devoted to questions of ultimate meaning, a place so intent on religious propriety that it erected an altar to an unknown god, just in case. Paul began with what they had and built from there.
His declaration that “God is not far from any one of us” is a profound missional lesson for us all; we don’t have to take God anywhere, we just have to discover where he is already at work.”
Barry Taylor
from an Emergent Manifesto of Hope.

Related ::
emergent manifesto of hope – free e-preview
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Christianity on Al Jazeera

Inside USA, a program on the English version of Al Jazeera recently did a story on Christianity and politics in America. Shane Claiborne, Chris Haw and the Psalters were each featured briefly as they worked on the audio version of “Jesus for President.”

If I’m not mistaken you’ll also catch a glimpse of Jamie Moffett sitting behind the sound board in the recording studio (Moffett was on the Something Beautiful Podcast 1.6).

Related ::
Al Jazeera
Al Jazeera :: Inside USA article
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The marbles are on a roll

http://flickr.com/photos/kacey/253793036/

Those marbles in my head are rolling around this morning. Lots of thoughts swimming around. Good thoughts I do believe. Maybe heritickle thoughts.

Watched 4 episodes of Tony Jones’ trek across america with Trucker Frank early this morn. Really makes me want to find Jones’ new book, “The New Christians” and read the rest of the story.

Trucker Frank

In the videos Jones rides along with and talks to former pastor turned trucker and home church leader Trucker Frank along with a number of other individuals across the countryside. (As a side note – Jones talked with Frank and another pastor turned truck driver in the videos. Andy Stanley also used a story of a trucker/evangelist/pastor in his book (“Communicating for a Change.”)

Trucker Frank and Jones talk a lot about the importance of church community and the importance of sharing our faith and ideas with each other – no matter how heritickle they may be.

The Wiki effect

Reminds me of the “Wiki effect” (as in Wikipedia). The Wiki effect is the idea that you can take 5 top geometry experts and put them in a room to figure out how many marbles are in a jar. The geometry folks will use specific formulas to figure their answer. Then bring in several hundred “average joes” to guess how many marbles there are. If you take the average answer of all the “average joes” it will almost always end up closer than that of any of the “experts.”

So if we applied this to our faith, the idea is that a true community sharing faith will be just as likely – if not more likely to come to “correct conclusions” about God than someone who’s spent 10 or 15 years studying scripture as a member of the clergy.

Doesn’t mean you don’t study and use church libraries and commentaries and other resources to build on and strengthen your faith – it just simply means that we should all be doing this and then sharing our thoughts, experiences and truths with each other.

And when you have one or two people throwing out “outlandish” ideas they can be tested and approved by the body as a whole.

A Peculiar People

So these thoughts are swirling through my mind… and then I get on the bus this morning and pick up Rodney Clapp’sA Peculiar People.” My History of Christianity professor at UMHB encouraged us to read this book while we were in his class. We even had a “book club” that discussed it… but at the time it was over my head and/or interest.

Clapp writes:

…the near-identification of Christianity with the nation-state has been nothing short of disasterous… I want to argue that American has so eagerly and thoroughly been Constantinian that it does have a true “old-time” and civil religion, but this religion is not Christianity. It is instead that eminently interiorized and individualized faith called gnosticism… what Americans have long been interested in is the gnostic type of religion, the tendency to believe and act as if faith and salvation were essentially private, acultural and ahistorical.

As Philip J Lee notes, “The gnostic escape, in the last analysis, is an attempt to escape from everything except the self.” The world, history and community are ultimately viewed with suspicion. The gnostic believes faith is a solitary affair between himself or herself and God. As Harold Bloom puts it, “Salvation, for the American, cannot come through the community or congregation, but is a one-on-one act of confrontation with God.” The American Jesus, Bloom suggests, “cannot be known in or through a church, but only one on one.”

As N.T. Wright notes, once we grasp a distorted and overemphasized “pro me of the gospel, the idea that God is ‘being gracious to me,’ we no longer need Jesus to be too firmly rooted in history.” Indeed, concentrating on the self and its individual salvation, we do not want a Jesus rooted in history, for that would be a particular Jesus who might reveal a particular God with a character and purpose different from our own. Nor do we want a Jesus who might be known in community or through the activities of a culture. All this runs against the American grain of discovering God within the self, a direction set at least since the early 1800s.

Hmmmm…. this brings me back to…..

Organic Church

I’m thinking this all ties in with some of the thoughts Lindsay Cofield shared in our interview this week about the “organic church”….

I’d rather have a church of 12 people who can replicate the DNA of the Kingdom of God than a church of thousands that will infect people with something less. Take time to build the real thing, not watered-down, lukewarm look-a-likes. If we’re going to be the church at all let’s be the real thing. Build the church God’s way! As an organic movement of unpaid servants.”
– Michael Slaughter, unLearning Church

You can look for that interview on the Something Beautiful Podcast on Friday.

Related ::

SSL: Heritickle
The New Christians
Tony Jones’ channel on YouTube (with the Trucker Frank videos)
Tony Jones’ website
Boston Globe article on the Wiki Effect
About Wikipedia
A Peculiar People
NT Wright on the Colbert Show
everywherechurch.com
something beautiful podcast